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Thorberg ARNESSON

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  • Name Thorberg ARNESSON 
    Gender Male 
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    • “THORBERG Arnesson of Giske, son of ARNE & his wife ---. Snorre names "Thorberg, Fin and Arne" as the sons of Arne.
      m RAGNHILD Erlingsdatter, daughter of ERLING Skjalgsson & his wife Astrid Trygvesdatter. Snorre names "Aslak, Skialg, Sigurd, Lodin, Thorer and Ragnhild" as the children of Erling & his wife, specifying that Ragnhild married Thorberg Arnason.
      Thorberg & his wife had four children:
      1. EYSTEIN Orre (-killed in battle 25 Sep 1066). Morkinskinna names “Eysteinn orri, son of Thorbergr and grandson of Árni”. Morkinskinna records that “Eystein Orri” was killed in battle in England with Harald III King of Norway. Betrothed ([early 1066]) to MARIA, daughter of HARALD III King of Norway & his wife Ielizaveta Jaroslavna (-25 Sep 1066). Morkinskinna records that King Harald had promised “his daughter Máría” to “Eystein Orri” when they returned after their invasion of England in 1066.
      2. OGMUND Thorbergsson . His name is confirmed by Snorre naming his son "Skopte Ogmundson, a grandson of Thorberg". m ---. The name of Ogmund´s wife is not known. Ogmund & his wife had one child:
      a) SKOPTI Ogmundsson of Giske (-Rome 1103). Snorre names "Skopte Ogmundson, a grandson of Thorberg", when recording that he "dwelt at Giske in Sunmore". Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that Skopte died in Rome, and that his sons also died during the journey. m GUDRUN, daughter of THORD Folason & his wife ---. Snorre names "Gudrun, a daughter of Thord Folason" as the wife of "Skopte Ogmundson". Skopti & his wife had four children:
      i) OGMUND (-[1103]). Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that Skopte died in Rome, and that his sons also died during the journey.
      ii) FINN (-[1103]). Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that Skopte died in Rome, and that his sons also died during the journey.
      iii) TORD (-Sicily [1103]). Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that his sons all died during the journey, Tord dying last in Sicily.
      iv) THORA Skoptisdatter. Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife, specifying that Thora married "Asolf Skulason". In an earlier Saga, Snorre names "Thora, a daughter of Skopte Ogmundson" as the wife of "Asolf of Reine". m ASULF Skulesson of Rein, son of SKULI Tostesson & his wife Gudrun Nefsteinsdatter.
      3. THORA Thorbergsdotter ([1020/25-). Snorre names "Thora, daughter of Thorberg Arnason" as mother of King Harald's sons Magnus and Olav. Morkinskinna records that King Harald had married “the daughter of Thorbergr Árnason…Thóra”. Her birth ddate range is estimated on the assumption that her relationship with King Harald started around the time of his accession to the Norwegian throne, corroborated by the fact that her son King Magnus was old enough to have fathered a son before hiis death in 1069. Mistress: of HARALD III "Hardråde" King of Norway, son of SIGURD Syr King of Ringeringe & his wife Asta Gudbrandsdatter (1015-killed in battle Stamfordbridge 25 Sep 1066). Mistress: of ---. Her other relationship is proved bby Snorre recording that her grandson "Hakon…was fostered by Thorer of Steig in Gudbrandsdal, who was a brother of King Magnus by the mother's side", although no indication has so far been found of the identity of Thorer's father. It is assumemed that this relationship predated her relationship with King Harald, as it is likely that Thorer would have been older than his half-brother King Magnus to have been chosen as foster-father for his nephew. [m (1066 or after) as his third wifee, SVEND II King of Denmark, son of ULF Thrugilson & his wife Estrid [Margrete] Svendsdatter of Denmark ([1020]-Søderup [29] Apr 1074, bur Roskilde Cathedral). According to Brenner, Thora Thorbergsdotter is identified with Thora who was the wiffe of King Svend and mother of his son Magnus. Christiansen considers that this identification is farfetched, considering her age at the time of the supposed marriage. There appears to be another chronological problem: the proposed consecration of Thora's son Magnus at Rome is best explained if he was King Svend's oldest son, which would place his birth (and therefore his parents' marriage) in the late 1030s.]
      4. JORUNN Thorbergsdotter . Morkinskinna records the marriage of “Jórunn, the daughter of Thorbergr Árnason” and “Úlfr Óspaksson…the marshal”. Snorre names "Jorun, Thorberg's daughter, a sister of Harald's wife Thora" as wife of "Ulf Uspakson…his marshal" and their children "Joan the Strong of Rasvol, and Brigida mother of Sauda-Ulf, who was father of Peter Byrdar-Svein, father of Ulf Fly and Sigrid. Joan the Strong's son was Erlend Himalde, father of Archbishop Eystein and his brothers". m ULF Ospaksson Stallare (-1066).”«s87»
    Person ID I9597  Lowell&Block

    Father Arne 
    Family ID F4725  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Ragnhild ERLINGSDTR 
    Children 
     1. Eyestein Orre THORBERGSSON
     2. Ogmund THORBERGSSON GISKE
     3. Jorunn THORBERGSDTR
     4. Thora THORBERGSDTR, of Giske,   b. Abt 1015, Norway Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID F3404  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart